Your assignment is to create an extended paragraph that answers these questions:
- Why did the Loyalists support the King and oppose independence? Be sure to cite specific primary sources, and use at least one brief quote.
- How do you think that Patriots might have responded to the Loyalists' arguments?
- Which side do you think had a better argument, and why?
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51 comments:
P.1 Gilberto L & Jasmine M
Loyalists supported the King and opposed independence because they thought England had been treating them well and encouraging them since the beginning, "The peace and security we have already enjoyed under great Britain's protection."
I think Patriots might've responded to the Loyalists' argument by stating that America needs to be independent and establish a republic of their own, as stated by a patriot, "…declare ourselves Independent, and set up a Republic of our own…"
I think the Loyalists had a better argument because they were choosing the powerful side, and it is true and stated that they had helped them move to America, along with sending over some protection and encouragement to their industry. This is proved by the following sentences stated by a Loyalist, "… howling wilderness turned into a flourishing and populous country… is this not due to the way in which the colonies have been treated since the beginning?"
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Laisha.G
Yamilet.G
The Loyalist supported the king because England would give them security."The piece and security we have already enjoyed under great Britain's protection..."They would oppose independence because without the protection of England they would have to battle on their own against other countries."But as soon as we declare independence, ruthless war with all it's aggravated horror will ravage our once happy land."
We think that the Patriots might have responded aggressively or upset because the Loyalists' were supporting the king unlike them who disliked the king.
We think that the Patriots had a better argument because after war the king forced them to pay taxes.
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Aaron F.
Samantha R.
The reason why the loyalists support the king and oppose independence would be because the loyalist know that once America becomes independent there will be war and without the assistance of England the americans will surely not win the war. So the loyalist know if American because independent that they will be taking a huge risk."But as soon as we declare independence ruthless war will follow."
The way that patriots would respond to the loyalists argument would go "We Americans need to stop being dependent on England and we must spread our wings and fly. We must become independent even if there is some wars and challenges during the way."
In my opinion the side that had the better argument would be the patriots. The reason why I say this is because America is England's child and like every child they must leave the nest and fly. In this case it would be becoming independent. America can't be dependent forever if they do they will never become there own country.
P1 Mirian P. & Priscilla P.
Loyalist supported the king and opposed independence because they didn't want to be against the british government which offered them various things such as peace between them as stated in the letter in the newspaper in year 1775. Another offered thing by the government was protection from foreign land which in the other words meaning that if they received freedom from England it meant loosing all assistance from the British Government and be seen to them as rebels which comes down to King George's famous statement "take down the rebellions or else."
Patriots would have answered to the loyalist by making the claim that if they decided to stay and follow the British Government that would have to follow their expectations and way of living. Unlike if you join the patriots who do want freedom you will be able to live free from all expectations of England and its king.
We believe that the loyalist had a better argument than the patriots because they didn't want to risk being hated by King George and all the assistance they had from the British Government.
p.1 Kayla O. and Anai O.
The American colonists support the king of England because they know that if they are not loyal, parts of their land will be ruined and most likely a "ruthless war will be started"
The thoughts or beliefs of the patriots and the loyalist created a conflict because they believed in different ideas. The patriots had wanted independence and the loyalist's enjoyed the Great Britain's protection.
My partner and I would chose the Loyalist side because we wouldn't want anything bad to happen to us like the patriots explained what would happen to them if they chose to be independent.
Per.1 Daisy M and Aimee M
1. The loyalist support the king and oppose independence because if americans became independent they will face wars and not win. They would also face obstacles during the trip of independence. "But as soon as we declare independence, ruthless war, with all its aggravated horrors, will ravage our once happy land."
2. The patriots and the loyalist's had an argument because both colonies believed in something different. ''The loyalist's had enjoyed Great Britain's protection and the patriots had wanted independence and they did not want to be loyalist's".
3. We think the patriots had a better argument because Americans were Englands children and every child wanted to become independent.
P.1 Julissa B. & Raymond B.
The loyalists supported the king and opposed independence because they would lose all assistance from England and if they had war England would win."By declaring independence, we would instantly lose all assistance from our friends in England."
I think that the Patriots might have responded to the Loyalists' arguments by telling them that they need to be independent and need their own government. They would also respond by tar and feathering them.
I think the Patriots have a better argument because they needed to be independent instead of listening to the King's unfair laws.
per.1 juan c and yatziry b
Some American colonists supported the king of England because England had security and if they declared independence, they would instantly lose all assistance from England .I think they responded by saying that America had to be independent and have a republic of there own. I think that the patriots had better argument because they were treated unfairly by the king and had to pay taxes to the king
P1 Patricia S & Shirley Z
The loyalist supported the king and opposed independence because they knew that if they weren't loyal they would easily loose all assistance from their mother country and would be seen as rebels and treated accordingly.Another reason why the loyalist supported the king was because if the colonies declared independence this would lead to wars and lots of casualties. The Patriots might have responded differently to the loyalist's arguments because they believed that the colonies should be independent and that the British government had no authority to control the colonies.My brief quote that supports my response is "But as soon as we declare independence,ruthless wars,aggravated horrors will ravage our happy land." This quote states the consequences that the colonies would suffer if they didn't obey England.The side that had the better argument was the Patriots because they had the right to have freedom and independence in their colonies.
P.1 ERICA H.AGUSTIN .I
Some America colonist support the King of England because they had everything that they needed and wanted.The loyalist supported the king and oppose independence because they were going to revolt from Great Britain which declared themselves independence.''suppose we were to revolt from Great Britain, declare ourselves independence, and set up a Republic of our own.They also wanted a republic of there own.they had responded to the loyalist' argument because America had to be independent and have a republic of there own.The side that that i thinks better is the a document because no one will be their if their country becomes attacked european wont help at all. another reason is that they would go into war and not help each other out. other than france would still be friends but france just made peace with the british and might interrupted the peace and risk another war with england. also loyalists backed up why they are loyal to england and won't disobey them because many blood would shed into war. also the risk of when they become independent that they might fall and corrupt which by that time england won't be at their side to help them on that risk of failure.
P1 Aaron
I believe the Loyalists supported the King and oppose independence because they didn't want to go to war with England. They knew if they went to war many of them would die. They were also afraid because they would lose all support from England. Charles Inglis said that if they declare independence they would instantly lose all assistance from England.
The Patriots were probably frustrated with the Loyalists. They were frustrated because they probably thought that the Loyalists were close minded and they weren't seeing the bigger picture. They felt that the Loyalists weren't seeing the unjust in the British rule.
I believe the Loyalists had better reasoning because if decided to appose the King they would most likely go to war and many of them would die. The Loyalists also said that if they went against them they would lose all support. So i believe the Loyalists had a better argument, but i still supported the Patriots.
P1 Natalie R & Nick P
Loyalist support the king and oppose independence because then they will stop saying anything in our favor. a quote that we used was "...stop saying anything in our favor,for they would be seen as rebels, and treated accordingly." The patriots would probably respond by sending them letters. The side that had the better argument were the loyalists because they had better reasonable answers that supported why they should be loyal to the king.
P1. Destinee M & Nayeli M
The loyalists support the king and opposed independence because they don't want to loose protection against the king. If they do, "ruthless wars, with all its aggravated horrors will take over their happy land. Also, innocent people will be killed and thousands reduced to beggary and wretchedness."
Patriots might have responded to the loyalists' arguments by trying to declare themselves independent. If they were to declare themselves independent, many devastations will happen such as: loosing all assistance from their friends in England and they would be seen as rebels and treated accordingly. Also, that seacoasts and ports will be ruined.
PI Amber D. & Jovana D.
The loyalists supported the king because they had protection and didn't want to risk losing that protection. They also might've been scared to speak up and create a war that they were afraid they would lose. I think this because in document A Charles Inglis says " … ruthless war, with all its aggravated horrors, will ravage our once happy land."
Patriots wanted freedom and independence along with a republic of their own so that they could lead it "correctly".
We believe that the Patriots had a better argument because they have a right to want their own freedom and be independence instead of people telling them what to do.We think this because they are their own people and can make decisions on their own .
Vanessa T. & Jesus T.
THE LOYALIST SUPPORTED THE KING BECAUSE THEY COULD GET PROTECTION FROM HIM AND THEY WERE SCARED TO GET INDEPENDENCE BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY WOULD LOSE IN A WAR.In document A it says"But as soon as we declare independence, ruthless war, with all its aggravated horrors, will ravage our once happy land."
The patriots responded to the loyalist arguments by telling them if they were to become an independent state they would be able to have any laws they wanted.
The loyalist had a better argument because they have better reasons to use the king for protection.
Period:1 Santiago V & Vanessa V
The loyalist support the King because he gave them peace & security that they enjoyed under Great Britain's protection " The peace and security under Great Britain's protection..."
The loyalist oppose independence because if they declare independence England will lose all their peace & start wars against them. "As soon as we declare independence , ruthless war , with all its aggravated horrors , will ravage our once happy land "
The patriots might have responded to them my telling them that if they were to become a single state they would be able to create any laws they would like.
P3 Luis G and Joanna G
The loyalists supported the king because they had peace and security from the king."The peace and security we have already enjoyed."
The patriots responded to the loyalist by not buying any goods from them.
I think the patriots had a better argument because they deserved rights like the british.
P3 Stephanie A. and Leonor A.
The Loyalists support the King and oppose independence because they were still loyal to England and the king, even once they left. They believed that England still ruled them so they stayed loyal. How we think that Patriots might have responded to the Loyalists' arguments is that the British government has been fair in running the empire and the different acts that are helpful to the colonies more than they harm them. Who we think had a better argument would be the patriots because all they wanted to do was have their own country because the king was treating them unfairly.
p3 Octavio L Ezequiel L
The loyalist will go or vote for the king to stay because the king gives them protection. "The peace and security we have already enjoyed under great Britain's protection".
The Patriots might have respond to the loyalists' arguments is that they had to vote off the king so they can make their own organization.
My opinion is that the patriots had a better argument because they wanted to make their own organization so they won't have to follow rules like paying taxes,be loyal to the king,and more. Patriots wanted to have their own rules.
P3 Bryan C. & Joshua C.
The loyalists supported the king because they were scared to lose their protection from the king.They know there going to lose there protection because they will confront the king. We think that the patriots would cause a small protest and give them reasons why there protesting. We believe that the Patriots had a better argument because they wanted to be free from England's unfair treatment.
Miranda P. & Litzy P. P3
The loyalist supported the King ,because of when the King help them grow in development , that development was called "The Golden Age".
We think the patriots were against the loyalist ,because they wanted to beg an independent country.
We would choose to be patriots ,because we wouldn't want someone saying they treated up the same as the English but in reality treating us differently, as in differently i mean making us pay taxes and just in general treating us badly.
p3 Jorge M.& Daisy M.
The loyalist supported the king because the king gave them protection in behalf of the loyalist paying taxes.''By declaring independence ,we would instantly lose all assistance from our friends in England.'' The Patriot opposed the king because they did not want to pay taxes in order for protection,''… colonies were being treated badly.''The side had the best argument is the loyalist because they paid their taxes for protection.
P3 -JONATHAN C
Annette C
The loyalists supported the king because the king would protect the loyalists.The quote is in document B "The Peace and security we have already enjoyed under Great Britainn's protection ".
The Patriots responded to the loyalist by protesting in Boston ground which is the kings ground,
The loyalist was a better side because they were protected by Britain's and also most of the Patriots were killed
p3 Anthony E. & Jose E.
- The loyalest support the king and oppose independence because their were 33% of the Americans who liked the king and followed his rules
-I think that the patriots might not liked the loyalest , people who liked their king , because the people of England have shot some of the people of the americans / patriots .
- I think that the patriots because they won their own organization and didn't have to follow the kings rules .
P3 Karla R. & Briana R.
1.The Loyalists supported the King because if they opposed the King wouldn't care or protect them. Also, the American colonists would lose help from England and if they left the King, people would stop saying things in their favor. "…We would instantly lose all assistance from our friends in England. They would also stop saying anything in our favor…" - Charles Inglis
2. The Patriots responded to the Loyalists' arguments by protesting tax on tea, Patriots disguised as Native Americans and threw 342 chests of tea overboard from three British ships.
3. We think that Patriots had a better argument because, the King had done lots of things that he thought were right but affected the colonists.
p3 Jesus G. & Eduardo H.
The colonist gave independence to Europe because, the only power that the colonist had was France but France was at peace with Great Britain and if France were to go to war they would interrupt that peace and risk another war with England. "The peace and security we have already enjoyed under Great Britain's protection,before the mistaken system taxation took place." The patriots might have responded to the loyalist's arguments by having boycotts and protests about the laws that the loyalists gave them. "To protect those rights, the colonies decided to boycott british goods." We think that the ones with the better argument is the patriots because they needed better rights and it was not fair for them.
P3 Oscar R & Bianca S
The loyalist supported the king because the king gave them power and protection for taxes."By
P3 Brittney C. & Angelina R.
Document A
The loyalists opposed independence because people would lose all assistance from their friends because it says in the document it briefly quotes " By declaring independence, we would instantly lose all assistance from our friends in England."
Document B
The loyalists supported the king because they had peace. In the document it briefly quotes that "The peace and security we have already enjoyed under Great Britain's protection."
Document A & Document B
We think that Patriots might have responded to the Loyalists' arguments by saying anything in their favour. In the document, it briefly quotes that "They will stop saying anything in our favour, for they would be seen as rebels, and treated accordingly."
Document A & B
We think that the Patriots had a better argument because they wanted freedom and they couldn't get it.
P3 Yanira S & Alberto A
The loyalists supported the king and opposed independence because, the loyalists knew that if they didn't support the king the loyalists would pay the consequences
by dieing."... declare ourselves independent ... what would be the consequences?" We think that the patriots responded in a bad way because the patriots didn't agree at all with what king George was doing for example when the patriots he never stopped believing that he would ever stop taxing americans.The patriots would have a better argument because the king did bad things.
p3 Francisco A, Bliss V
The reason why the loyalist supported the king and oppose independence because,by declaring the independence they would stop assisting them. For example they would stop saying anything their favor , so they would be seen as rebels.
We think that the patriots because they were they had their own organization and they didn't have to follow the kings rules on what he had to say about it
P3 Guadalupe G. & Yesica G.
The Loyalist supported the king for the reason that the king gave them protection, as it states in the text "By declaring independence we would instantly lose all assistance from our friends in England."--
Loyalist apposed the independence because they didn't want to pay taxes in exchange for their protection.-- The patriots responded to the Loyalist arguments by tax on tea--
P3 James C. & Rudy D.
1. The reason why Loyalist support the King and oppose independence because American colonist should be loyal to England, but they don't want too, but they would instantly lose all assistance, and also because the protect America and if they don't be loyal, they wouldn't have any protection.
2. The way I think that Patriots might have responded to the Loyalists' arguments is by the Tea Act, which had prompted more protest. Another way is by the when the Tea ships Arrived, because the british East India Company's Tea ships sailed into American ports, but angry protesters kept them from unloading the cargos.
3. The side that we think has the better argument , is the patriots because they were treated like slaves and it wasn't fair because the had to drink the tea.
P5 Ajax A & Borax B
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P5 Angel R & Yenny R
The Loyalist Supported the king since they thought that Great Britain helped America flourish. They also thought if they rebelled that Great Britain would crush the rebellion. The Loyalist Thought that America owed them for our golden age.
The Patriots would have argued with the loyalist that they did not owed them gratitude since they grew themselves. The patriots would have said that the Americans caused America golden age and Great Britain ruined it. They would have said that they would be willing to die for their country.
The side with the better argument was the patriots because they were willing to die for their country. They also did make America flourish since Great Britain was across the Atlantic Ocean and too far away to really help them.
P5 Alisha H & Ashley H.
The Loyalists supported the king and opposed independence because the king allowed the colonists to be free and liberal people for a moment. The king decided it was time to have some rules over the colonies.
The Patriots might have responded by saying that they deserve to make there own rules and have some rights that are fairly made unlike the kings rules.
We believe that the Patriots had a better argument because if the king was going to make rules, he should've at least made them fair and allow the colonists to have their rights.
P5 Karen G & Andy B
1. The Loyalists supported the King and opposed independence because of the peace and security provided by the King. "The peace and security we have already enjoyed under Great Britain's protection…"
2. The Patriots might have responded to the Loyalists' arguments by saying that the Loyalists will not do anything in their favor and they would be seen as rebels.
3. We think that the Patriots had a better argument because the Patriots were staying loyal to America and the Patriots would be able to set up a Republic of their own.
P5 Estefany M. & Viridiana M.
The Loyalists supported the King and opposed independence because if they didn't they would loose protection from England. The source we used is from Charles Inglis, Anglican minister, "By declaring independence, we would instantly lose all assistance from our friends in England.
The Patriots might have responded by saying that they didn't need protection from England by paying taxes for protection.
We sincerely think the Loyalists had a better argument because they would of lost protection from England, France could of helped them but they were at peace with England.
P5 Karen J Angelica L
The Loyalists support the king and the oppose independence because bad thing will happen to them."But as soon as we declare independence,rothlesswar,with all its aggrarated horrors." They will also loose assistance. We think that argument B is better because they were allowed to be free liberal people. They also had peace and security under Great Britain's Protection. We think the Partriots have responded to Loyalists arguments by saying that their right should be fair unlike the kings.
p5 Hugo S & Hector S
The loyalist supported the king because the king gave the americans protection.Another reason is the growth of where the americans were living. "Isn't our growth a result of Great Britain's willingness to encourage our industry and protect us from foreign countries?" The patriots must have responded in a a a a negative way towards the loyalists arguments. The patriots did not obey the rule the king was giving them. We think the patriots had a better argument because they weren't treated right.
Sources : Pennsylvania Packet and Graphic Organizer
p5 Leslie B. & Yonis G.
˚The loyalist supported the king because of the peace and security the British king provided them and they opposed their independence because if they declared their independence ruthless wars with all their aggravated horror will ravage their once happy land. "The peace and security we have already enjoyed".
˚We think that the patriots might have responded in an aggressive way due to the fact that they were against the king and would stand against him and his followers.
˚We think the patriots had a better argument. We think this because the loyalist stayed in document b they regretted their choice of standing with the king, "The peace and security we have already enjoyed under the Great Britain's protection, before the mistaken system of taxation took place, must make us look back with regret to those happy days…".
P5 Nataly R. & Angel M.
Some reasons the loyalist supported the king or didn't want to go to war were because they didn't want ruthless violence and the loyalist were also afraid that England would stop saying things in there favor. Other reasons that loyalist supported the king were because they thought that America's growth was because of England and were also afraid of losing protection from Britain. One brief quote is "Some degree of gratitude , such as becomes a free and liberal people, would be appropriate."
The patriots would probably response "Give me Liberty" or "Give me Death."
We would say the Patriots had a better argument because they were sick of being attached to England and thought that they were better off independent. Another reason we say that the patriots had a better argument was because they didn't want to be apart of England.
p5 Alyssa M & Heyle O
The loyalists supported the king because they were loyal to the king no matter what."Let us then,my friends and countrymen, be patient and avoid all inflammatory publications that are disrespectful to our most gracious Sovereign." We think that the patriots would respond to the loyalists by saying that the loyalists might not do anything in their favor and that they deserve equal rights. We think that the patriots had a better argument because the people deserve equal rights.
P5 Fabian C. & Berenice C.
We think that the loyalists supported the king either so that there wouldn't be a big disaster or because they say that life is better in England. In Document A ,by Charles Inglis, it says ," But as soon as we declare independence,ruthless war,with all of its aggravated horror, will ravage our once happy land." In Document B ,By an anonymous writer, says ,"The peace… must consider as the golden age of America. We would think that the Patriots would respond to the loyalists' argument by telling the loyalists that there are not free if they became loyalist because they are under the service of the king. We think that the Patriots had the better argument because they are right that they aren't truly free if they become loyalist and that the British might take over there land.
P-5 Stephanie F and Brandon F
The loyalists supported the King and opposed independence because if we declare independence many bad things will happen. "But as soon as we declare independence,ruthless war, with all its aggravated horrors,will ravage our once happy land." They will also lose the assistance from England.
I believe the patriots would have responded to the Loyolist arguements by saying that their rights should have been fair unlike the kings.
I believe the Patriots would have won for the better arguement because they were against the king whom made unfair rules.
p5 Briana S. Jaritzy S.
The Loyalists supported the King because the taxation had stopped. Also because the Loyalists had the peace and the security they wanted. The Loyalists opposed independence because "as soon as they declared independence there would be a ruthless war." The King would ravage there once happy land.The Patriots would have been upset because in the 1770's there was no peace and security for England. There was also a heavy taxation going on that destroyed.The Loyalists had thought that the King made a mistake about the taxes. The side that I think had the best agreement was the Loyalists since there was more evidence about them.
P5 Viridiana P
The loyalist supported the king and oppose independence because the loyalist thought the king was fair because he would give the patriot independence but the patriots would decline,and then the loyalist would see the patriots not as friends.I got this from document A (Modified). The quote that supports my answer would be "By declaring independence, we would instantly lose all assistance from our friends in England."
I think the patriots responded to the loyalist arguments like not following what they said nor obey the king's rules that the king has given to the loyalist to follow.
I think the patriots side would be better because they did not follow the king's unfair laws,but even though they were being taxed they had their own self government but they couldn't vote either way. Another reason is because the patriots had their own power but even thought the loyalist had stronger power than the patriots,the patriots were protected my the king.
P5 Daniel V. & Valery S.
We think loyalist supported the King because in document a the Americans didn't want to lose the trust from their friends England. Our quotation from document a was'' by declaring independence, we would instantly lose all assistance from our friends in England.They will stop saying anything in our favor, for they would be seen as rebels, and treated accordingly.''another reason is because in document a it also said that the Americans wouldn't want to go in war with the England because of their hugest army would beat the americans.''…as soon as we delate independence,ruthless war,with all its aggravated horrors…''
Patriots responded in bad way to the loyalist because of the tea party.
P5 Dennise M & Yahal R
- The loyalists support the king and oppose independence, a reason being is that they would lose assistance to England. Another reason is because the received help form France. Here is a quote from primary source A, "But France is now at peace with Great Britain...".
- In my opinion i think that Patriots responded to the Loyalists' arguments by saying that they didn't need protection from them. They also responded by not paying taxes for unnessary protection.
- I think the Patriots had a better argument because they helped us very much. They helped us with growth and protected us from foreign countries.
P5 Sandra G & Laura G
The loyalist supported the king, because if they got independence they would appose, and lose all their assistance and they would be seen as rebels and, also treated accourdingly.We think that the patriots might have responded to the loyalists' arguments by saying they wanted to have their own independce, because then they would have their own rights. Both had good arguments, but the loyalists' had a better argument, because they make a great point on how they will be trated as rables and will lose all assistance and treated accordingly .
P5 Beatrice A. & Delia A.
The Loyalists supported Great Britain and oppose independence because if they declared independence the colonies would lose the help they could obtain from Great Britain. "Declaring independence, we would lose all the assistance from our friends in England." Loyalists also assumed that if you declared independence, there would be a ruthless war. "Declaring independence, ruthless war with all its aggravated horrors, will ravage our once happy land." Great Britain provides peace and security to everyone. "The peace and the security we have already enjoyed under Great Britain."Great Britain provided protection for their jobs. "…encourage our industry and protect us from foreign countries." "If we declare independence, Great Britain would stop saying anything in our favor, for the would be seen as rebels,and treated accordingly." I think that the patriots felt that the English were taking over their land and assigning many new laws. For example, the stamp act,proclamation and other laws. That is why i would be against the king of Great Britain.
Mr. Albert's response:
The Loyalists had three main arguments. According to Rev. Ingles, opposing the King was nothing less than suicide -- he says that "torrents of blood" would be spilled, and most of that blood would be American blood. He also says that the world is a dangerous place, and by breaking away from the king, Americans would no longer have his protection. Finally, the writer in the "Pennsylvania Packet" points would that in spite of the problems facing the Americans in 1775, the colonies had "flourished" under the protection of the British army and navy -- and those protections would disappear if the colonists succeeded in braking away.
If a Patriot heard those arguments, he or she would surely disagree. The Boston Massacre, where Americans died at the hands of the British, showed that we really weren't being protected, we were being killed. As for the colonies flourishing economically under England, the many taxes, such as the Stamp Act and the tea tax, showed England would no longer allow the colonies to grow -- the king finally realized we had something he wanted -- our money.
Finally, while I recognize that the Loyalists had reasonable ideas, the British were taking away our freedoms, and since the King was not treating us like Englishmen and Englishwomen with rights to representative government, America should take the risk and rebel.
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